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Can Alligators Climb Vinyl Fence?

Friday, March 22, 2019 1:16 pm

Florida is a pretty great place to live—we think it’s paradise! But even paradise has its hazards. In many parts of Florida, alligators can be a real nuisance. Alligator mating season is coming soon, and locals know that the call of the wild can make these creatures bolder and more aggressive than other points in the year. Homeowners and business owners alike are looking for strategies to keep alligators off their property.

Does Installing Fencing Keep Alligators Out?

Installing fencing on your property seems like a logical way to keep alligators out. With bodies that hug the ground, a fence of any height ought to stop them, right? Well, not necessarily. WhetherCan-alligators-climb-vinyl-fences this strategy will be effective depends on a few factors. Here are two ways alligators can get around certain fences.

Alligators Can Climb Chain-Link Fence

If keeping alligators at bay is your goal, you don’t want to install chain-link fencing on your property. It won’t keep determined alligators out.

It sounds preposterous, but it’s true. Video evidence shows that some Florida gators have figured out how to climb chain-link fencing. Check out this YouTube video taken at the Hideaway Country Club in Fort Myers!

Alligators Can Squeeze Under Poorly Built Fences

There’s no real mystery to this one. We’ve all seen dogs do this. An overeager pup can squeeze through a gap in the fence that seems impossibly small if properly motivated. So can alligators, and make no mistake: during mating season, they’re properly motivated.

The Solution? Install Vinyl Fencing to Keep Alligators Out

Fencing can be a great solution to keep the alligators out, but you have to select the right type. Fencing that extends all the way to the ground (or just below the ground level) can help prevent gators from crawling underneath. Fencing that lacks a “grabbable” structure may also prevent them from climbing over. Vinyl fencing is a great option, because it’s long-lasting, secure at the ground, and lacks the claw-holds that chain link provides.

Are you ready to protect your property, kids, and pets by installing vinyl fencing? Contact Buy Direct Vinyl Fence today for a quote.


Benefits of Choosing Vinyl Fencing

Friday, August 11, 2017 12:00 pm

If you’re not sold on vinyl fencing, consider these benefits.

BD_Why-VinylWhen it comes to choosing a type of fence, there is a variety of materials to consider, including wood, iron, chain link, and others of the sort. Vinyl, however, has become one of the leading materials for fencing. It’s low in cost, easy to maintain, and comes in a wide range of colors.

When it comes to choosing a type of fence, consider these vinyl benefits:

  • Low maintenance: Vinyl fence requires little to no maintenance. There is no need for repainting, and termites and other pests will not use the fence as a sanctuary. In most situations, a quick wash with soap and water once every other month will keep your fence looking sharp as ever.
  • Non-toxic and recyclable: Vinyl is a non-toxic material and it is not treated with any chemicals after it is manufactured and it can be recycled once it is no longer needed.
  • Cost-efficient: Compared to iron and wood fencing, vinyl is usually less expensive. This is especially true when you consider you will have no associated maintenance cost of repainting/restoring your vinyl fence due to rust or insect damage.
  • Extreme weather: When it comes to extreme weather, the vinyl fence will perform. High elevation? Extreme cold weather? A hostile climate with dry spells and high temperatures? Humidity? Rainforest like climate? Not a problem. It is also great for coastal areas that wreak havoc on iron and wood. Vinyl will not rust or rot and maintains its integrity. Saltwater exposer will not cause a breakdown in the material or cause rotting.
  • Easy install: Vinyl fences have been designed specifically for ease of installation. You don’t have to be professional to install your fence. Once the posts are set, slide in and secure you horizontal rails, and then secure your vertical pickets in the slots. Easy and simple!
  • Variety of colors: There are only so many colors you can choose when it comes to wood and iron fencing, but when you choose vinyl, you have a plethora of colors to choose from that best fits your style, tastes, and/or house color.

If you’re in the process of deciding what type of fence to get or if you have decided on vinyl, check out BuyDirectVinylFence.com to learn more!

Does All Vinyl Fencing Hold Up the Same?

Monday, June 5, 2017 2:11 pm

Does all Vinyl Fencing hold up the same, or are some fences better than others?

Does All Vinyl Fencing Hold Up the Same?This is a question that can be asked and answered in so many ways.
How does vinyl fence hold up in hot weather? How does vinyl fence hold up in cold weather? Does vinyl fence fade? How long will vinyl fence last?  How does vinyl fence hold up in areas with frequent high winds? How does vinyl fence hold up in areas with heavy rainfall or snow? How does vinyl fence perform in coastal climates?

The phrase “vinyl fence” in the questions above can give a false assumption to a consumer that all vinyl fence must be made the same. That assumption could not be farther from the truth. All vinyl fence is not made the same therefore how vinyl fence will hold up is ultimately determined by how it was manufactured on the extrusion line, and then what profiles are used on a specific styles and how that profile is fabricated into fence. These are two major questions that have to be asked when answering “how long will vinyl fence last” Let’s get a little more specific on what questions have to asked to be able to truly give a good solid answer to the questions above.

How was the product manufactured?

For example what is the wall thickness of your product and what kind of UV protection was applied to the cap stock? Several companies in the market place benefit greatly from a customer’s assumption that all vinyl fence is manufactured the same. They omit certain details and say the right things and provide a false sense of security through half-truth marketing and high prices. If it’s expensive it must be good right? Well not always.

How was the product fabricated?

  1. Let’s start with vinyl privacy as an initial example.
    Wall thickness of the 5X5 post? This will play a major factor in the wind load. If a vinyl fence post has a thin wall it will buckle at grade level when exposed to high winds. .135 wall post is a very common thickness in post for privacy fence. This is what I would consider good. Best would be a heavy duty .150 wall. The difference between the two is huge when it comes to holding up to the elements. It’s $3.00-$5.00 difference per post. Money I consider well spent.
  2. Would be U-channel. This is two small 1” strips that go on each side of every panel. U-channel has been eliminated over the years by many fabricators saying. “Oh, all you need to do is just cut the last picket with a table saw nice and straight and you won’t have to mess with the labor of installing u-channel. (3 self-tapping screws and 30 seconds is worth it when it comes to u-channel) The truth is that u-channel is not just a trim piece that covers a bad cut it is very important to integrity of the panel. The elimination of u-channel has nothing to do with easier install but everything to do with charging the same price as the other company hoping the customer doesn’t do research and saving 4.00 on every panel.
  3. Horizontal rail. This one gets me every time. In my mind there is two types of rails on a privacy fence, a pocket rail and a ripped rail. Once installed it would be hard for even an experienced installer to tell the difference. However the difference between the two is incredible and how someone would think marketing a ripped rail as standard and acceptable is beyond me. A pocket rail is extruded specifically for privacy fence it comes off the extrusion line with a pocket design for the vertical pickets to slide into. It is usually deeper, stronger and fits better. Furthermore it is incredibly easier for a DIY homeowner to install. A ripped rail is a rail designed for ranch rail fence that is put in a machine and has a 7/8” or 5/8” gap ripped down the middle to fit a vertical privacy picket in it. The rail is generally thinner and not designed from the manufacture for privacy fence. You have to ask yourself the question why would a fabricator go to all of the trouble of ripping a rail when they could buy a pocket rail already extruder with a pocket for the vertical picket. Answer: They save a ton of money and most people would never know the difference. The ripped rail sold undisclosed to a customer as a standard privacy rail is miss leading.
  4. Tongue & Groove Pickets. Good would be a 7/8”x12” Picket or 5/8”x12” Picket. The Best picket is a 7/8”x6” Tongue & Groove. It will have a higher wind load rating and be stronger fence. The 6” picket generally has more ribs. The 12” picket was designed to save money and install quicker but still provide the same look.
  5. A metal insert should be in the bottom of every panel for 1.5×5.5” rail.

If it’s expensive it must be good right? Well, not always. You get what you pay for right? I usually do agree that you get what you pay for. However, if you don’t do your research you could be paying the “best” (highest) price and receiving the “good” product or even worse something bad that definitely won’t last.  In every market when it comes to products there is always a good, better, & best option. I see way too often in the vinyl fence industry customers paying for the best & getting less than good. If you follow these guidelines above it will help you avoid this scenario. Vinyl fence is a fantastic product and will add value to your home and property. Do your research ask lots of questions it is worth paying a little more if necessary? Paying a little more and doing your research may be the difference between a fence that will last for many years to come and a fence that will not last longer than a year or two.

How to Install a Vinyl Fence – Infographic

Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:20 pm

Step by Step Instructions on How to Install a Vinyl Fence


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Installing a fence can be a strenuous task, but thankfully it doesn’t have to be. With this step by step infographic, you can install your fence correctly the first time around.

This graphic will take you through every step of the process, including the parts list you’ll need for each panel.

How to Layout a Fence Line

  • Privacy panels come in 2 sizes, be sure that you space your holes to match either the 6’ (71.5” between post centers) or 8’ (95.5” between post centers) panel length.

How to Set in Concrete

  • Different soil conditions and climates require different footing specifications. You’ll need to get professional guidance on your specific area, but in most cases, the post holes need to be 10” wide and 18-24” deep.
  • In frosty regions, longer posts are required to keep your fence firm in the ground.

How to Keep your  Fence Straight and Level

  • Once the holes are dug, the easiest way to set posts in a straight line is by using a stretched string line, from 1 end to the other.
  • Use a level to ensure that the posts are perfectly verticle.

How to Install Bottom Rails

  • Stiffeners provide fence panels added strength and will arrive pre-cut already inside the bottom rail.

How to Install U-Channels

  • Screw U-channel to the posts in between the routed top and bottom holes

How to Insert Pickets

  • Insert the Tongue & Groove pickets into the bottom rail and U-channel starting at one side and working towards the other side.

How to Install Top Rail

  • Insert top rail into one side, then onto the pickets.
  • Pust top rail down until pickets are in place, inside the channel and slide the top rail into the 2nd post hole.
  • Secure rail with screws, inside the posts.

How to Install Post Caps

  • Glue caps onto the top of each post with PVC glue, making sure not to spill or drip glue onto the fence.


Enjoy your new fence, and if you need more information, we’re here for you!

Wood, Metal or Vinyl Fencing in Coastal Climates?

Thursday, October 20, 2016 3:04 pm

Which is Better, Wood, Metal or Vinyl Fencing in Coastal Climates?

vinyl fences in coastal climatesThe biggest problem facing backyard fences in coastal climates is the coastal climate. Many homeowners ask us how vinyl compares to more traditional backyard fences, hoping to extend the life of their new fence beyond that of the fence they are replacing. We are happy to tell them that the wear and tear the climate causes to their wood, steel, and cast-iron fences does not affect our superior vinyl fencing.

The 3 causes of fence damage in coastal climates are:

  1. Brine
  2. Rain
  3. Heat


The beauty of the ocean has its benefits, but the weather and the view can spoil and be spoiled by outdoor products, like fencing. Brine, or salt water, is carried on the breeze, and splashed up on the shore, and can’t really be avoided by any fences in the area.

Wooden fences absorb the salt water, causing swelling, rotting and decomposition. Often these fences collapse and become overgrown by moss and other vegetation.

Metal fences, whether cast-iron or galvanized, coated, bare or painted, the brine can cause the metal to rust and fall apart.

Vinyl fences won’t rust, corrode, decompose, splinter, crack, peel. Vinyl stays strong, clean and beautiful, year after briny year.


Rain, like brine, can cause a lot of problems. Wooden fences need additional protection every 6 months or at least every year, to hold up to the constant barrage of falling rain. Eventually, wooden fences will succumb to the rain and begin to swell, warp, crack and decay. It can take a few years for the end to come, but the process begins the day your wooden fence is installed, and the fence becomes ugly, frail, brittle and unapproachable long before it fails entirely.

Steel and cast-iron react to rain the same way they react to brine, they corrode and require expensive ongoing maintenance to remain attractive and functional.

Vinyl, on the other hand, can stand up to heavy rainfall without corrosion, rusting, cracking or peeling. You will never have to treat your vinyl fence to protect it against adverse weather conditions, it’s a maintenance-free beauty that will long outlast your old metal or wooden fence.


Heat is the secret ingredient that can be added to either rain or brine to cause the most damage to wooden and metal fences. Heating rain or brine soaked wood is what causes swelling, warping and ultimately cracking. It creates the weaknesses that will eventually destroy wooden fences.

Steel and wrought iron, on the other hand, become untouchable in high spring and summer heat. Again, the combination of rain or brine and heat causes increased corrosion and erosion. The evaporation speeds up the oxidation and makes the whole process of wearing out your fence faster and more dramatic.

Our vinyl fence is made from a special formula, so it is stronger than regular PVC or vinyl. Our fences contain 12 parts of Titanium Dioxide (TiO2) and other inhibitors. This ensures that our fences will not only stand up to the heat but prevent, yellowing, peeling and cracking. Our fences are so well made that they can stand up to the full heat of an Arizona summer (117 degrees or more) in direct sunlight, without becoming hot to the touch!

We guarantee that if you set up our vinyl fence in your yard, you will not have anything to fear from your coastal heat, brine or rain.

Why do people choose different types of fences?

Monday, March 26, 2012 10:33 pm

My job has required me to travel quite extensively over the last year and a half.  I am a fence contractor so naturally I seem to notice fencing wherever I go.  My most recent travels to Southern Texas got me thinking, why is there so much wood fence in southern Texas.  It looks great when it is first installed but over time gets warped, discolored, and starts to fall apart.  Being in the fence industry, I know there are other options, and yet, when I visited Texas, all I really saw was wood fence.  When the old fence would get bad, they would just replace the bad section with new wood and this process continues over and over again.

In Arizona, almost all fencing is block masonry fencing.  Other areas such as the east often have no fencing at all in their neighborhoods.  So what makes people choose the fence they do and why is one type of fence predominant in an area?

My thoughts are this; people often choose their fencing because it is what they are used to.  They feel comfortable with it.  I was raised with a father that drove a truck, that was my first vehicle to drive, and I feel comfortable in trucks.  Yes, you guessed it, I drive a truck.  I think fencing is the same way, people get used to a look and feel and change is sometimes hard to swallow, even if it is there are other options that may be more practical for their conditions.  I remember the first time I heard of vinyl fencing.  I said, what is this plastic stuff?  But it really grew on me after I installed it for a homeowner for the first time.  The more I was around it, the more I felt comfortable with it, and now I install thousands of feet of it each week.

In addition to what is comfortable, I believe people choose the fencing that is affordable in their area.  I’m sure that in Texas, wood fence is affordable and readily available, just as I know block fencing is in Arizona.  Each region has different products that are available and more affordable and I am sure this plays a part in why people choose the fence they have.

My observances of new products in new areas are that it only takes a few pioneers to lead the way and others start to follow.  So the next time you see an old wood fence, you will probably think, why did they choose that fence and think of this article.  I know I do.

How Thick Should My Vinyl Fence Be?

Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:54 pm

The latest marketing trick in vinyl fencing to sell fence is to tout how thick ones fence is compared to another. I am frequently asked how thick is your vinyl fence, as if it is the ultimate deciding factor of which Fence Company a person will purchase their fence from.  I have recently found more and more companies making claims that their fence is the thickest and how the competition is not as thick and therefor inferior.  The reality is the thickness difference between most vinyl fence suppliers is hardly enough to make a difference (for example a post that is .135 and one that is .150 thick is just one hundred fifty thousandths difference).  Having said this, you don’t repel from a mountain with a string, and you shouldn’t put a paper thin post in the ground to support a privacy fence.

My first ten years in the industry were in the harsh Arizona climate and I have seen many different suppliers product withstand the sun, and some have failed miserably.  Amongst those that failed, where some very thick, and some very thin.   So what makes a vinyl fence the type that a consumer should purchase?  Is it the thickness that should be the deciding factor? In my opinion, it’s not necessarily whether it is 100% virgin vinyl or whether it has been made from recycled products.  It’s not necessarily how thick it is either.  Sure the product needs to be designed to withstand the impact and structural tests a fence should, and the reality is, almost all legitimate fence suppliers (those that actually manufacture the vinyl fence, not just re-sale) sell a thick enough fence for the applications they market them for.  In these cases, the longevity of the fence is not thickness, but other factors.

So if most companies sell a thick enough fence, what should be the determining factor?

What most companies fail to discuss is that one of the most important factors in whether a fence will look good for years to come is actually the thinnest part of the fence.  The technologies of today allow vinyl fence to be co-extruded which means that if you look at the end of a vinyl fence post or rail that you will see two different layers.  The outer layer or top-coat (a very thin layer) is what contains the chemicals which keep the fence looking good for years to come.  The inner layer (the thick part) is also important as it contains impact resistors and other longevity chemical.  The outer layer chemicals are very expensive and a product that is mono extruded and thick is likely to have less of these good chemicals if the extruder is trying to have a good price point.  So it’s not necessarily how thick a vinyl fence product is, but what chemicals have been compounded into the product, and where.  The extrusion process is technical and requires constant monitoring to make sure the right chemicals are going in the right place, in the right amounts.  It’s all about quality control.  Anyone can throw some resin compound in a extruder and produce vinyl, but will it last?   I have toured several extrusion facilities and have been amazed by the differences in quality control processes that each of these company followed.  Some seem to just run the product and bundle it.  Others spend lots of time and energy monitoring the quality of the product and testing it for impact, color, and longevity. Bottom line is that you need to make sure you are purchasing from a reputable company, one with a good track history, many years in business, perhaps one that is used to supplying products in harsh climates and you are less likely to end up purchasing a so-so product.  For example, a company that extrudes and markets their vinyl products in the Southwest is much more likely to be following strict compounding and quality control procedures than a company that extrudes product in a place that doesn’t have extreme weather issues.

To conclude… on its face, don’t believe every claim a company makes about their vinyl.  Spend time to learn about the company that is making the claim.  Learn about the company, and you will likely learn about their product.  Where are they located, what do they sell, did they call me back promptly, how many years in business, and how do they answer my questions.  If the company is credible, their product is likely going to be credible as well.

Lowe’s™ is a great store that sells lots of everyday products that each of us use in our home and garden projects.  If you happen to be a hands-on guy like me, you tend to know the cashiers and store helpers on a first name basis.  They make shopping easy and convenient with so many different items all in one store.

As great as Lowe’s is, in my opinion, they have their limitations.  They are great at selling things that are very common in the building industry.  But on the things not so common, I have found that those that work in the store are less knowledgeable about the items.  For example, I have found that many times they do not stock a fitting or bolt that I need if it is not a standard size.  Often these items can only be obtained by special order and take days, if not weeks, to come in.  I have found it easier, rather than wait to receive the item, to go to a specialty supply house or contractor.   I find it so nice to walk into a specialty store and talk to someone who really knows about the item I am looking for and that can help me make the right choice.

How about Lowe’s vinyl fencing?  I have found vinyl fencing to be one of the items where a specialty store still holds value .  Vinyl fencing can really vary in quality and it is sure great to purchase the fencing from someone who fabricates it and can make recommendations as to what should be purchased and how it should be installed.  A specialty vinyl fabricator can typically customize a fence to the needs of my project easier than a large store could who has to order these custom items.  A specialty vinyl fence company is probably very knowledgeable about vinyl fencing and will offer suggestions on what I should purchase, why I should purchase it, and how it should be installed.  I would guess that I would not find this level of expertise about vinyl fencing in a Lowe’s store.  I doubt most of the employees have much experience installing vinyl fencing at all.  My experience is that a vinyl fence company that sells vinyl fence will generally sell a great quality product and be very knowledgeable since that is all they do and their reputation and livelihood rides on it.

I am grateful for the Lowe’s down the street from my house whenever I need some basic home and garden items, but for the specialty items around the home, I still rely on and appreciate the good old specialty supply house and contractor down the road. I would prefer that each of them stick around for years to come.

Lowe’s is a registered trademark of LF, LLC.

Considering another home improvement project?  If you are, and you are anything like me, your first trip will probably be to THE HOME DEPOT™ or Lowes™ to get the materials that you need.  What about Home Depot vinyl fence?  They have that too so you should be getting a pretty good quality product for a great price, right?

Better think again.

To compare, let’s look at the main thing’s we want as consumers; low price, high quality and excellent customer service. In other words we want value.  We want the best quality and customer service that we can get at a price we can afford.  So let’s compare The Home Depot Vinyl Fencing against Buy Direct Vinyl Fence and see what we get.  Part 1 of this article we will analyze the price aspect of our purchases and parts 2 and 3 will go over high quality and customer service respectively.

Low Price

Let’s compare one of the most popular styles of vinyl fencing; 6’ tall white vinyl privacy.  We will use an example of a 48’ x 48’ backyard with no gates.  To illustrate, take a look at the drawing below:

Since Buy Direct Vinyl Fence offers 8’ Wide Panels and the local Home Depot we called offered 6’ Wide Vinyl Fence Panels, we will need to calculate how many panels and posts are needed for each product in order to get the total price.  These costs are outlined in the table below:  (this comparison was made on March 23, 2010 and may change as time moves on please contact your local store for local and current pricing).

As you can see from the table, even the economy version that The Home Depot vinyl fencing offers doesn’t compete in price to our professional grade quality vinyl fencing. (For more on Quality see Part 2 of this article).

What about other costs?  At Buy Direct Vinyl Fence you do need to pay for shipping which will vary depending on your location.  However even when purchasing online from HomeDepot.com you will still be paying sales tax for your purchase if there is a Home Depot fencing store located in your state.  You only pay sales tax from us when purchased from Arizona.  Most of the time the cost of tax or shipping are a wash but even when shipping is slightly higher you still have quite the buffer as seen in the example above.

Other Costs: Notice anything about the number of posts when comparing the two products?  Since The Home Depot uses 6’ panels you will need to install more posts and buy more concrete.  In the example given it amounts to 6 additional posts.  This will add even more to the cost of concrete and will result in 25% more labor to dig the holes and install posts.   On many styles, The Home Depot also uses brackets that must be attached to the posts which add even more installation time.

The choice is pretty clear when comparing price.  Haven’t made up your mind yet?  Then look for Part 2 of this 3 part series where we discuss the Quality of the Product.  You’ll be shocked as we reveal the shortcuts The Home Depot fence suppliers have taken to make larger profit margins by creating weaker, thinner, extremely low quality vinyl and portraying it as industry standard.  Stay tuned…


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Lowe’s is a registered trademark of LF, LLC.

Who Are You Really Buying from Online?

Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:24 pm

I am fairly young, graduated from High School in 1995, at the time, the internet was just developing and access to information was not as easy as it is now.  In the last 15 years, limitless amounts of information have become available in a fairly unregulated platform.  The other night, I surfed the web looking to purchase a product, each manufacturer making their claim of being the best, biggest, cheapest, and of highest quality.  I found myself asking the question, is it even possible? Can all be the cheapest, biggest, lowest price, highest quality? Within a short period of time I found myself tired of the marketing baloney and outrageous claims and decided to call it a night and do a little more research before I made my purchasing decision. Below are some of my thoughts on how you can read between the lines and sift through the marketing ploys to make an informed decision when making your next online purchase.  I will use my business perspective and the vinyl fence industry to illustrate my points.

Writing this article was easy as so many on the internet make statements about their company’s size, product, and ability to service: “Guaranteed lowest price.” “It’s impossible for some one else to sell lower because of our buying power.”  We are the biggest.”  “You can trust us” (you might want to think twice about trusting someone who has to tell you to trust them). “We sell the highest quality.”  “We are the factory or we are factory direct.” “We have the best service.”  “We sell the thickest profiles.” “Lifetime warranty.” “Free Shipping.” etc.  Some of these claims may be entirely true so…I will discuss the indicators to help you determine whether they indeed are, when buying vinyl fence online.

Here is the truth about online shopping as I see it:



Many claim to be the biggest and I wonder how they came to this determination.  Did they call their competitors and ask them how big they are? They did not call us.  If they did call us, we wouldn’t tell them how big we are and neither would anyone else.  I am always amazed when companies claim to be the largest and yet they don’t have a picture of their facility, operations, and even an address to verify their location.  My other thought is biggest what?  Biggest facility, biggest sales, biggest inventory, or biggest truth stretcher for that matter.  We have been in business long enough to know biggest is not always best, especially when it comes to overhead expenses.  We don’t really know if we are the biggest, but we know our size is adequate to sell at a low price and take care of our customer’s needs.  We are happy to show you a photo of our facility and inventory. Hopefully that is enough to convince you we can take care of you.  I am always leery of a company that promotes themselves as the biggest and has little or no information about their facility or history, just a thought.


Can everyone guarantee they will sell at the lowest price?  This is probably the highest utilized marketing tactic on the web.   I translate this statement to really mean, the online retailer is not going to offer a low price to begin with, they are hoping that people are dumb enough to believe that they really do have the lowest price and pay their higher published prices. I have found the best way to read through this marketing tactic is to read the “fine” print.  The greater the amount of disclaimers, the less of a chance that they have really shopped the competition and really offer a low price.  Chances are the price quote you got from a competitor (Us) is not going to meet all the “disclaimers” they put on their so called Guarantee.  We will tell you this, we shop our competition regularly and sell our products at a lowest price, the lowest price we can sell and still make a reasonable profit to ensure we will be around tomorrow to service your needs again. If you somehow find a lower price from a competitor we will do our best to find a way to beat it, but we are not going to sell it for less than what it cost us; we could not stay in business and do that, and neither can the competition.   After all, only the government thinks they can do that?


I always get a little skeptical when someone says trust me. Trust is something that should be earned, not something you brag about.  Also just as the image above with “Free Candy” written on an old beat up van…would you buy from that guy?  I don’t think so, so why would you buy online from an outdated website, if they don’t have the money to invest in using the latest in e-commerce platforms why would you trust them with your credit card number?   I think I have said enough on this.


The truth is almost all the vinyl fence produced in the US is of good quality and if you live in the central or eastern states, you would probably be fine with about any supplier you chose. Out in the west or in high heat climates, its a different story. Arizona, where we are located, is about the harshest climate for vinyl. The combination of extremely high temperatures, low humidity, wide temperature swings and constant sunshine makes it a very good testing ground for vinyl.  If it can survive here, it can survive anywhere. Almost every major vinyl producer tests their products here. We have been to their facilities and have seen firsthand the results. All vinyl fence products do not all hold up well in this harsh climate and so we sell only those that do. You can be assured that if you buy it from us, your vinyl fence will perform well wherever you are located.


The truth is anyone who tells you that ranch rail will hold in a cow or horse that is determined to get out is not telling the truth no matter how thick the material may be.  It goes without saying that if you take a one ton Chevy truck and run it head on into a Volkswagen; the truck is going to win. If you have a horse that is a leaner or is determined to get to the greener pasture on the other side of the fence, no matter how thick your post and rails are, you had better have a Plan B to keep them in.  This may include a hot wire or no-climb fence to put on the inside. The owner of our company has a three-acre pasture with two horses and a 2000lb bull. One side is 3-rail 2×6. 160 wall post and .110 wall rails. The other side is .130 wall post and .80 wall rails. Nether have had any problem with the horses but the bull is another story. Even after installing no climb to the inside of both, an occasional rail has to be replaced on them both.  All in all, the replacement cost is minimal for the beautiful, low cost, low maintenance fence that he has enjoyed through the years.  The truth is, thickness is good, but the difference is so minimal that it likely does not make a real difference on most applications vinyl fence is used for.  If you are concerned about this, call and discuss it and get all the information you need to feel comfortable with your decision.


Vinyl is kind of like furniture in that most furniture manufacturers by bulk lumber profiles from a mill, which purchased it from a timber company, and then they manufacture it into furniture. They then generally sell the furniture to a furniture store who in turn sells it to the public. Generally, a three or more step process. There are several major vinyl extruders that purchase raw material that vinyl is composed of; they are often referred to as extruders.  They combine those materials and extrude it into the various bulk vinyl profiles much like lumber. (link to bundle pictures)  This is the company that generally warranties the products from defects. The fabricator, as we are sometimes called, or manufacturer if you prefer, buys it from the extruder, then fabricates the profiles into the various fences, railings, gazebos, pergolas or whatever you can imagine. The Fabricator then sells the fence to the public over the internet or directly to other fence companies who in turn resale it to the public or over the internet. You should be able to purchase your fence cheaper if you buy directly from a fabricator or manufacturer and bypass one of the normal mark ups.  Many companies on the internet have purchased from a fabricator and are reselling the product at an additional markup.  One good way to sort through this is call and ask, or if you don’t want to go to the trouble, look to the lead time that it takes from ordering to receiving the product, most fabricators can turn the product within a few days and have it shipped quickly.


What does that mean? Your life, my life-time. Is it like the group of young men who went to the all you can eat buffet and after three trips to the buffet the owner comes out and says its time for you boys to leave. One of the young men protest saying the sign out front says “All you can eat.” The owner responds and says that’s right, “And I say that’s all you can eat, now get out.” If you read most of the companies life time warranties you will find enough wiggle room to drive a semi moving a house through. The truth is that a good quality fence installed properly under normal conditions will last a really, really long time. It will experience a slight change in appearance do to its exposure to the elements, but you probably would never notice it unless you add some new fence right next to the older fence. Don’t worry in a short time it will adapt as well and all will look the same, beautiful.  Don’t let warranty be a big deciding factor, read the fine print and you will find most companies offer a very, very, limited warranty.  My recommendation is buying from companies that have been around for over 10 years and know the industry.  My personal plug is to buy from Buy Direct Vinyl Fence, a company with a long track record of successfully selling product (approx 1 million linear feet) in the harshest climate in the nation, Arizona.

I hope this has helped you as you make your online purchase decision.  Become informed and try to look past all the marketing tactics designed to trick you.  When in doubt, call and ask questions, by doing this you will feel confident in your online purchase.